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  1. Good morning. I have been studying the Trinity due to ongoing conversations with a “Biblical Unitarian.” I desperately need help understanding some things. I have believed in the Trinity all of my life, but, alas, I get tangled up trying to defend it. I have come across the Eternal Sonship and Eternal Generation theories, talk about mind blowing, it just seems to go in circles. I don’t think that I ascribe to this teaching. My leanings are that the Logos became Jesus. My issue comes from the old Testament and when God say “I”. Who is talking? Is there some type of functional subordination going on between the 3? And how do we label the 3 in the trinity prior to the incarnation? I know after the incarnation it is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but is there functional distinctions prior to that in the old testament. I pray that this question gets to you. I am driving my self crazy trying to figure this out. Not just for the sake of defending the trinity to the Unitarian, but also knowing why I believe what I believe. I eagerly await your response. Blessings,
    Art

    • Art, there is much about the Trinity that we will never understand, since the finite cannot completely grasp the infinite. I do not believe the Bible teaches Eternal Sonship or Eternal Generation; these imply some kind of eternal subordination among the persons of the Trinity, which I also deny as Biblical. Yahweh as revealed in the OT era includes all three persons of the Trinity; we do not know which one (if indeed it is not all three) is speaking in the “Thus says Yahweh” texts. Also, I believe there probably is functional distinction in the OT era, but we do not always know the details–nor do we HAVE to know them. The most important thing is to know that in this NT era God has given us a more detailed revelation of his threefold nature, and that this directly affects our view of the deity of Jesus Christ. Yes, the LOGOS–who was, is, and always will be eternally equal with the Father and the Spirit–became united with the human being Jesus of Nazareth, who since his beginning in the womb of Mary has been and always will be our Redeemer. For more on the relation between Jesus and Yahweh, see my latest post on prophecies about John the Baptist, and see this essay on this website: http://jackcottrell.com/uncategorized/jesus-and-yahweh-how-are-they-related/ . Also see my book, The Faith Once for All, the chapter on The Trinity.