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Does God’s Foreknowledge Negate Man’s Free Will? — 18 Comments

  1. I believe God knows the outcome of our choices (our ultimate destiny), and if we change our choices (which He permits), then His knowledge of our ultimate destiny changes. God is not limited to the results of the choices we make today, but His grace appeals to us to choose life. — Ben A. Trujillo

  2. Boethius (6 century), in his book “The Consolation of Philosophy” wrote about this subject. It’s worth reading.

  3. Thank you Dr. Cottrell, in simpler terms I might understand, before I was formed in my mother’s womb (pre-creation decision), God fast forward the VHS tape of my life decisions (free choices) to the end (foreknowledge), then went back to the beginning of the tape and hit record. Right?

    • Something like that. It’s difficult to find a precise analogy of infinite things in this finite world.

  4. Dr, Jack cottrell How can you Relate your Statement in foreknowledge to Permissive Will of GOD? if GOD Give Permission to Others so meaning HE FOREKNOW Them and He is the One who Decreed their DEEDS??

    • The alternative to God’s PERMITTING something to happen (which his foreknowledge shows is ABOUT to happen, based on the created causes that are constantly operating) is deciding to PREVENT that thing from happening, via his own supernatural intervention into the cause-and-effect processes (in the form of special providence, or miracle, or supernatural spiritual action). God’s purposive “decree” would apply only to the latter case, i.e., his decision to PREVENT something via his own action. His decision to simply PERMIT something to proceed to happen would not be a decree to cause that thing to happen, but a decree to decide not to prevent it from happening. Thus the only decree operating in God’s permissive will is NOT a decree to cause the creature to do something, but is only a decree that he himself will NOT do something.

    • No, but I will include your question here to see if someone else is so aware.

      • It appears Larry Chouinard, writer of the Matthew commentary in the College Press set, might lean towards openness. Is he still active in scholarly circles?

        • I’m not sure what Brother Chouinard is doing now. Maybe someone else will know.

  5. Who decides who will be saved? God or the individual? God loved Jacob but hated Esau before they were even born, I understand this had to be from God’s foreknowledge of the boys. But some are teaching that it is all God’s choice as to who is saved with man having no part/no choice. I thought we all had to opportunity to choose Christ or refuse Him?

    • God chooses (or decides) the conditions under which He will save any given sinner, but the sinner himself or herself decides whether or not he or she will meet these conditions. The former is an expression of divine sovereignty; the latter is an expression of human free will.

  6. If God knows the outcome of every decision every person will make forever, then what’s the point of us having to live them out? What I mean is, if the final score is already in the books, why play the game?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to be silly, but if God knows the decisions people are going to make then I feel it’s safe to assume he knows who will, and won’t, eventually be saved. Who will accept our efforts to share Jesus and who will sadly reject him. If there are some people whom he knows will never accept him, why would he allow us to waste out efforts on them? It seems that if God already knows the outcome of everyone’s decisions, sharing Jesus is less about converting people via the actual message and more about just finding the person who’ll say yes.

    And maybe that is how it is, I don’t know. Heck, maybe I’m not even supposed to know. Maybe that’s just part of the mystery of life.

    • You are confusing cause and effect. God’s foreknowledge does not cause the events that he foresees, but vice versa. The events cause the foreknowledge. If the events do not happen in real time, there would be no foreknowledge. God’s foreknowledge of these real (but future) events cannot be a substitute for the events themselves. Just remember: what God foreknows are REAL EVENTS. Cancel the events, and there is no foreknowledge. Cancel the game, and there is no final score.

  7. We live in the context of time which was created by God with the physical universe. He is outside of time so can see everything in time, past present or future. I think the big problem is that many do not understand that God is outside of time and so He can see our future. We still have free will in the understanding of time being created by God. Something to consider in the mix, I believe. So simple and yet profound. God stepped into time when miracles were performed. This also helps us better understand the Incarnation. Jesus came into time and was still not constrained by time and He left and will return at the end of time.

    • I take a different view of God and time, but I will not go into it here. One can see my essay, “Understanding God: God and Time,” in Evangelicalism & the Stone-Campbell Movement, Volume 2: Engaging Basic Christian Doctrine, ed. William R. Baker (ACU Press, 2006), pp. 64-85. Basically I believe it is a mistake to say that God is “outside of time” as such. The classic view of the timelessness of God, which says that everything for God is one eternal now, raises many more problems than it seems to solve.