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  1. Romans 5: 12 “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned”

    I want you to look at the grammar. Paul uses what the Greek called the aorist tense. That’s a tense we don’t have in the English language, but it’s a past historical tense. The use of the aorist tense implies a once-for-all act in the past. Compare this with Romans 3:23 (“all sinned,” i.e., in the past, also in the aorist tense, and “all are coming short of God’s glory” [i.e., sinning personally], in the present continuous tense). And the question is How do “ALL SINNED” in Romans 5: 12 ???

    The answer is given by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15: 22 “For as IN ADAM all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.”
    What Paul is saying here is – we all sinned BECAUSE we were “ALL IN ADAM” What does that mean ?

    Let’s go back to the creation week. Genesis 2: 7 “Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” We read that God breathed into Adam’s nostrils “the breath of life.”

    In the original Hebrew text, the word “life” is in the plural form — “lives” — and not singular, as our English Bible renders it. That is why God named that first man Adam. In Hebrew, “Adam” means “mankind.” Of the 510 times the word “Adam” is found in Scripture, in the majority of cases, it refers to mankind rather than the individual Adam. So God breathed into Adman’s nostril ALL HUMAN BREATH OF LIVES including yours and mine. Let me give you another text:
    “From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth…” Acts 17: 26

    So when Adam sinned, ALL the human lives that were “IN HIM” were affected by sin.

    So what Paul is saying in Romans 5: 12 “…that all sinned (in Adam). We were in Adam when God created him.

    “Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one! ……..” Job 14: 4

  2. Original sin is a false doctrine that has led to several other αἵρεσις . The idea that our spiritual DNA was was somehow changed because of Adam is an unnecessarily man-made conclusion.

    In Romans 5:12-21 Paul explains how the whole would became guilty because of Adams transgression. The knowledge of good and evil showed Adam and Eve their need of clothing and the same knowledge convicted the world of it’s less than stellar behavior. Once this knowledge was made available to the world via Adam the entire world was accountable. Though the entire world did not “eat of the tree” in the similitude of Adam’s sin they lived against the knowledge and therefore sinned v12, “thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin”!

    Rom 5:12 because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin; 
    Rom 5:13 for till law sin was in the world: and sin is not reckoned when there is not law;
    Rom 5:14 but the death did reign from Adam till Moses, even upon those not having sinned in the likeness of Adam’s transgression, who is a type of him who is coming.

    Why labor to invent elaborate systems of doctrine when the simple truth is explained in this passage?

  3. Jack,

    This is interesting. In my mind, the idea of original sin creates a problem. Maybe you can help me sort this out. If original sin is true, then Jesus being fully human and born with fleshly desire would have to inherit this original sin. That would make him out to be a sinner and the sacrifice void. If Jesus was free from original sin how can we say he came in our flesh with our temptations? Surely he came fully human in the flesh as we experience it. Only 2 solutions as I see it. Either original sin is true and we are all born condemned (pre Christ) and Jesus circumvented this because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and was not conceived in sin (again this makes me uncomfortable because you really toe the line of him not sharing our flesh) OR we are not guilty at birth at all but are born in a fallen state in which our sinful human nature causes us to sin without fail. The act of sin and not original sin condemns us. Again, think pre Christ – not considering your original grace argument right now. Under this scenario Jesus would also inherit this sinful human nature because he shared our flesh 100% and was fully human, but his holy divine nature of which he was fully God allowed him to always overcome the desires of the flesh. In this way he was the only perfect sacrifice because he truly overcame the struggle with sin.

    • You are struggling to provide an answer for a problem that does not exist. Whether there is such a thing as original sin or not, it would not affect the nature of Jesus’ humanity. He would have been preserved from any such thing by his miraculous birth. You are concerned that in that case he would not be “fully human.” This is a false assumption, because sin is NOT a part of true humanness. Jesus was fully human with a true human nature, and a true human nature does not involve sin. I will quote from my commentary on Romans 8:3, the Biblical text which says that God sent “His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh”: “Jesus came in real flesh, but only in the ‘likeness’ of sinful flesh. His body was fully human in the truest sense. It had everything a human body is supposed to have, but it did not have the corruption carried by sin. It was not necessary for him to assume a sinful human nature in order to be able to redeem us; he only had to have a genuine and complete human nature, which he did.”

  4. But the justification of God is a GIFT (v.15, 16, 17). A gift can be either received or rejected. Can a baby receive or reject a gift ? I wonder how many babies were saved in the flood or from Sodom and Gommorrah ? Thanks for your insight.

  5. There are two things that Paul applies to Christ that is not true of us in Adam: I will emphasise number one only.
    1. When Paul refers to the obedience of Christ which justifies us, he calls it a “gift”; he uses that phrase. You’ll find that in verses 15, 16, and 17. The word “gift” [which means it’s free] he applies towards Christ, but never towards Adam.
    Now this is very important. Because a gift can never be enjoyed until you receive it.
    What is true of us in Adam is not a gift. It belongs to us by native right. We are by creation, we are by nature, we are by native right belonging to Adam. That’s where we belong. Our lawful right is Adam. Therefore, it is not a gift, it is a native right.
    But we are not naturally in Christ. That’s a gift. You can reject or receive that gift. Can babies receive that gift ?
    I wonder how many babies were saved in the flood or from Sodom & Gomorrah. Just a thought, but thanks for your insight.

    • I agree with what you are saying about what we receive from Christ. What you are saying about Adam, though, needs some qualification. Some things that we possess by nature come from Adam, i.e., things having to do with our humanness, such as free will. But in Romans 5, the things Paul declares we got from Adam (such as death) are not ours “by nature” or “by native right.” Though we would not call them “gifts,” they are nonetheless IMPUTED to us or bestowed upon us as things we do not have by nature. Your main point about what we get from Christ remains sound, though, even if there is not a clear contrast with how we get things from Adam.

      • In Romans 5, verses 12 to 21, Paul is comparing Adam with Christ. The reason why he is discussing Adam and our situation in Adam in verses 12 to 14 is because he wants to use Adam as a type or as a pattern of Christ. In other words, he is saying: “What happens to us because of Adam in the same way happens to us because of Christ.”

        There is a parallel. I want you to notice something here. After discussing our situation in Adam, how does he end up in verse 14? Because that’s why he’s discussing Adam. He says:

        …Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
        He’s a pattern or type. He’s a figure of the One to come. what is true of us in Adam must also be true of us in Christ! That’s the pattern! That’s the parallel.

        Therefore, if you insist that we all die because we sinned NOT because of Adam’s disobedience, to be honest with this passage, you have to teach that we are saved, NOT because Christ obedience.

      • You need to remember Paul was an ex-Pharisee. He was an expert on the law. He knew what Deuteronomy 24:16 said:”Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.”

        He knew what Ezekiel 18: 20 said, “The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.”

        He knew that, legally, you cannot transfer guilt and punishment. You can’t transfer. No law allows that. And so, because he knows that, he makes a statement. He says in Romans 5: 12, “……..This death spread to all men because all sinned.”

        Let me ask you this statement – Did Paul mean that all die because all sinned IN Adam? Or did he mean all die because all sinned LIKE Adam? Which one? That is the big issue. The “In Adam” is absolutely different from “like Adam”.

  6. Your style is really unique compared to other folks I have read stuff from.
    Many thanks for posting when you’ve got the opportunity, Guess I’ll just bookmark this page.

  7. Thank you for a wonderful article. I have been using your commentary on Romans to teach an adult Sunday school class at my church and was hoping I could ask you some questions about your view on Original Grace. As I understand this view, whatever effects Adam’s sin had on humanity (i.e. depravity—partial or total, physical death, guilt, etc.) were totally undone by Jesus’s death on the cross. Babies are born innocent and without any spiritual deformities inherited from Adam (i.e. tendency to sin, disordered desires, etc.). As a result, people are held accountable only for their personal sins that occur after they reach the age of accountability. My questions are as follows: When a person reaches the age of the accountability is he essentially in the same state Adam was in before he sinned? Is there a difference in that Adam was in this state without any special grace from God but the rest of humanity can only be in this state when reaching the age of accountability because of a special act of grace? How is this view similar or different from Pelagius’ view? And if we do have original grace and are similar to Adam prior to the fall when we reach the age of accountability, how do we explain the universality of sin? Is the tendency to sin simply a brute fact about human nature? Finally, if Adam’s sin does not actually affect the rest of humanity, does this undermine a basic argument that Paul is making in Romans 5? That is, if Paul is arguing that we can know that Jesus’s death can have a positive spiritual effect for all of humanity because Jesus is greater than Adam, and Adam’s sin had a spiritual effect on all of humanity, then how can Paul use the premise, “Adam’s sin had a spiritual effect on all of humanity” in this argument if Jesus’s death made it such that Adam’s sin never actually had a spiritual effect on all of humanity? Would it be that Adam had the potential to affect all of humanity through his sin but Jesus, being greater than Adam, not only has the potential but actually affected all of humanity through his sacrifice? Thank you for your thoughts on this topic and for your years of service to the Christian community through your scholarship.

    • Thanks for this thoughtful request. If a large enough segment of time opens up for me, I will try to provide some answers.

  8. Hello Jack,

    I am currently an associate pastor in another church body, and your explanation may well have kept me in the Restoration Movement had I happened upon it in my early days of theological exploration. Thank you for the above. You have given me much to think on.

    Many blessings,
    Adam

  9. I have a question you said that “because of Christ, all babies are in fact born in a state of original grace: pure, free, and innocent. This grace is applied to all babies, not just to the “elect” and not just to children born of Christian parents. It is applied automatically and universally.” why God commanded king Saul to kill all amalakite including INFANT: 1 Sam:15:3 “Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'”…Where the ORIGINAL GRACE of God to all Amalakite baby? thanks

    • Two things. (1) Original grace as applied to the Amalekite babies (as to all babies) means that the condemnation that WOULD have come upon them as the result of Adam’s sin was removed by the redemptive act of Christ. This means that these babies were not sent to hell when they were killed. They were living in a cocoon of grace, thanks to Jesus Christ. See Romans 5:16, 18. (2) Though the babies did suffer a terrible physical death as the result of Adam’s sin, they died with the promise that they would be raised from the dead in new, mature, redeemed bodies at the second coming of Jesus. This is because of original grace. See Romans 5:17. In conclusion, original grace does not prevent bad things from happening to our bodies in this life, but it guarantees that no eternal consequences will be applied to anyone as the result of Adam’s sin.

  10. Thanks – this is clear. I do have a question, though, about the concept/existence of natural law which all may have (the conscience?). Rom. 1:18-20; Rom. 2:13-15. Clearly, Cain sinned before the Law was given, Gen. 4:5-7; Rom. 5:12-14, but was it imputed to him? If not, then why would people have wanted to kill Cain and would would this have been just (i.e., not a sin)? God punished Cain, which implies law breaking. Gen. 4:10-12. Jesus seemed to refer to natural law derived from the very fact that God had created man and woman when answering the Pharisees. Mt. 19:4-9. I’m pretty sure that this cannot be answered in 20 words or less (but if you can, that’ll be terrific – and amazing!), but would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance!

    • Wayne, this is not really a problem. God’s law was built into creation from the beginning, long before sin was introduced. The general moral law was written on the hearts of Adam and Eve and all their offspring, by virtue of their/our being created in the image of God. Also, we can infer from Genesis 3:8 that God (in a theophany) was accustomed to engaging Adam and Eve in sessions of fellowship and teaching. (We infer this from the fact that they recognized the sound of God’s approaching them, which implies that he had approached them like this before.) Cain indeed sinned “before the Law was given”–if you mean the Law of Moses. But he already had access to the law against murder–written on his heart (Rom. 2:14-15), so he was “without excuse” (cf. Rom. 1:20). For an abbreviated list of these “natural laws,” see Romans 1:26-32. See my commentary on Romans on this.

  11. Hi Dr. Cottrell,

    I would like to add a brief comment regarding a common “proof text” from Romans regarding the depravity of man and get your opinion.

    Often Calvinists and others who hold to the idea of total inherited depravity point to Romans 3:9-18. Often, they quote from the ESV in which the translators, in an attempt to provide clarity, added the word, Jews” to the text. Here’s how the ESV phrases it:

    “What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,”

    Regardless of the translation used, Calvinists assume that Paul is speaking of total depravity of all individuals. I don’t think he was referring to total depravity. let alone inherited depravity. Nor is he referring specifically to individuals.

    I believe the ESV has incorrectly identified those to whom Paul was writing. Paul most often identifies himself with this mainly Gentile readership in this letter, and often refers to the Jews in the third person. Clearly the previous context suggests that as well. So, it makes little sense that he would now switch to speaking of the Jews in first person and the Gentiles in third. In addition, when you read verses 9-18, we see Paul quoting scripture speaking of the depravity specifically of the Gentiles.

    Even more telling is the fact that these scriptures (mainly Psalms, but also Isaiah) refer to the Jews as righteous, innocent, helpless, victims, upright in heart, repentant, people who love His name, etc… If the ESV is correct in their identification as Jews, it makes no sense that Paul would make the statement that the the Jews are just as depraved as the Gentiles, and then quote from scripture painting the Jews in an entirely different light.

    My point here is that I believe that Paul’s mention of depravity, which is never referred to as inherited, is a depravity specifically of the Gentiles, and not the Jews. Paul’s purpose is to keep the Gentiles aware of their own depravity lest then think they earned their salvation and status before God because they were less sinful than the Jews.

    So, what that means is that Paul’s purpose in writing this is not to demonstrate that all people are inherently totally depraved, but merely to remind the Gentiles that they did not, in any way, earn their righteousness. I believe this reading is supported by Paul’s subsequent comments in :19-31, and that

    1. all have sinned (both people groups)
    2. all have been justified (both people groups…not individuals of course)
    3. there is no distinction (between both people groups)
    4. their true source of righteousness is God through faith in Christ
    5. therefore there is no reason to boast because they earned nothing.

    Thoughts? I confess I haven’t read your comments on chapter three in your commentary. Maybe you have already addressed that. At any rate, I thought I would mention this because so often people turn to chapter three as well as chapter 5 to “prove” total inherited depravity, and I really think it’s a very bad proof text for that.

    • I agree that this text does not affirm or teach total depravity, and I agree that it does not suggest that the sinfulness here attributed to all human beings is somehow derived from Adam. His main point is to affirm that all individuals have indeed sinned (as summed up in 3:23), and therefore–his MAIN point–no human being will be justified by the law system, i.e., by how well he or she obeys their law code.

  12. Thank you for this excellent interpretation of Romans 5:12-19 and your focus being on what Christ has done to bring about the reconciliation spoken of in 5:1-11. This passage is without question about Christ fixing what mankind has done, and the focus should be on Him. But, in light of what I feel is a lot of wrong interpretations in verses 12-14, I’d like to add my interpretation as to Adam’s contribution in all of this, and I’d appreciate your thoughts on it. As you know and have identified, there are various and sometimes conflicting interpretations on just exactly Adam “imputed” to all mankind. As I see it, there are basically three common interpretations. One is, of course, sin. Another variant of that would is a sinful nature. A third, as you also identified is physical death (expulsion from the garden and consequently no longer any access to the Tree of Life). I call these perspectives: the inherited sin perspective, the inherited sinfulness perspective, and the inherited consequence perspective. In my opinion, none of these views fit the general context in Romans very well. Nor do I think they are well supported by what is written regarding Adam’s original sin in Genesis (other than the inherited consequence perspective), and I think that a fourth perspective warrants some consideration. I call it the inherited discernment perspective.

    We saw Paul speak of a general knowledge of God in Romans 1:18-20, causing all mankind to be without excuse. Paul doesn’t elaborate, but it’s clear that it is something that all men possess. More specifically, in Romans 2:12-16 we read that the Jews have a law by which they will be judged, but judgment isn’t limited to the Jews because even the Gentiles will be judged. Why? Because God has written a law on their hearts. Some would call this the law of the conscience. I will explain in a bit, but I think Adam was responsible for giving us this law. Then in Romans 3:19-20, we see Paul support his comments in chapter 2 that all will be judged by the law. Then in 4:15, Paul explains that the law is required for judgment. Where there is no law, there is no wrath. Why? I would suggest that because God is a fair judge, He would not judge anyone who cannot discern between right and wrong. Ignorance is an excuse. The problem is that, as Paul previously mentioned, no on is ignorant. Again, I believe that is because of Adam. Then we read in 5:13 that sin is not imputed when there is no law. Again, Paul is supporting his statement that the law is required for judgment. We read this again in 7:1-13. Clearly Paul is trying to link one’s capability of being judged to possession of the law (whether from Moses or on our hearts) But certainly 5:12-14 suggests that Adam contributed something to all mankind causing them to sin and consequently suffer mortality. My view is that Adam did not give us his sin, nor his sinfulness. Instead he gave us the law (the ability to discern between right and wrong). We do not read in the original sin account of Adam passing on sin to mankind or his sinfulness. But, what we do read is that at the time of the original sin, Adam gained discernment. He broke God’s commandment (a law) and immediately felt shame. I believe that when he ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (a tree aptly named), he gained exactly what the tree produces. You are what you eat, and unfortunately for all of mankind, it is because of Adam we gained this discernment and can not use ignorance as an excuse. Anyway, a lot more I could say on this, but I think this interpretation fits very well in 5:12-14. Sin and death were not in this world until Adam introduced it? Why? We didn’t have discernment. People died before the law was given to Moses. Why? Because all people had the law on their hearts because Adam passed on discernment from the fruit he ate to all mankind. How did death spread to all mankind? Was it Adam’s sin? No, Paul says it is because all sinned? Paul’s point here is that since sin and death cannot exist without the law, and since we know sin and death existed before the law was given to Moses, people must have been judged by the law that Adam introduced to all humanity.

    So much more I could say, but I’ve got to get back to work. Maybe I’m all wrong about this but I thought I’d throw that out for comments. Anyway, I appreciate your comments. You’re absolutely right. This section is about Christ cancelling what was done…initially by Adam, but also personally by all of his progeny. The focal point is not Adam, but Christ!

    • I totally disagree that Adam had anything to do with the origin of the law written on the hearts of all human beings. This is the result of our being created in the image of God (Eph. 4:21-24; Col. 3:9-11). This on-the-heart law code would be on every heart whether or not Adam sinned.

      • Thank you for your reply and comments.

        You raised a good point that I believe is appropriate regarding the question posed, “Are We Born Sinners?”. If we are born totally inherently depraved with no good inclinations as some would say, then how in the world are we made in God’s image? It’s difficult for me to imagine that a totally depraved man with all inclinations being against God’s will, has been made in the image of God. But, a person born with the ability to discern and choose between right and wrong…that I see as being compatible with one being created in God’s image.

        Thanks again for your reply and comments. As always, I enjoy reading your posts and find great benefit in doing so.

  13. Great article, thank you. It is difficult for me to fathom the idea of original sin as put forth by so many, especially after reading Ezekiel 18-19. “The soul who sins as the soul who shall die.” Thank you for the clarification!

  14. Absolutely outstanding!!! I appreciate your explanation/analysis of Romans 5:12-19.