HomeNotesCAN ONE BE “SPIRITUALLY ALIVE” WITHOUT BAPTISM? (PART TWO)

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CAN ONE BE “SPIRITUALLY ALIVE” WITHOUT BAPTISM? (PART TWO) — 5 Comments

  1. Thank you for that excellent reply to Tom’s question. I think many Reformed-influenced Christians struggle with these same questions, and part of the reason I think is that they read Rom 8:7-8 in isolation and without due regard to its context. I include myself in that camp as I too was influence by Reformed theology teachings. It was because of various conflicting interpretations in Romans that spurred on my desire to devote so many years to finding the truth. This eventually lead to writing a commentary on Romans–a task I would never have otherwise sought out to do.

    Your point is “spot-on”. Paul was referring to obedience to the law. I would add the context indicates total obedience–as if one could attain righteousness through it. It’s not as if people can’t choose to do good, and it is not as if we are 100% totally depraved as many Calvinists would say (a misinterpretation from Romans 3). Anyway, it’s understandable why Calvinists have such a hard time with the idea of free will, as the concept permeates the Bible. In the New Testament alone, I’ve documented 220 references to a person’s ability to choose. The idea of free will must be incredibly difficult for anyone who reads scripture with a discerning mind to ignore, and I love seeing people like Tom at least question what he has been taught (Acts 17:11). As always, I enjoy your comments and get great insights from them. I read them regularly. Keep up the great work!

  2. Brother Cottrell, a lady in our class studing Acts says she was saved before she was baptised a second time, but not as a result of her first baptism as a child. Not wanting to embarrass her, i didn’t ask how she knew she was saved but figure she had some emotional experience. i find no NT examples of emotions as confirmation of salvation except AFTER water baptism. How say you?

    • You are correct, Brother! The key example is the Ethiopian eunuch, who “went on his way rejoicing” after his baptism (Acts 8:39).

  3. I consider myself a restoration-minded born again Christian but have also, recently, been struggling with the Reformed approach to free will (we have none) and the sovereignty of God (it’s all Him) in the salvation of mankind. I don’t believe their Calvinistic theology but struggle with some texts. Although this article is not dealing with that particular issue, a quote included in it, referenced below, seems to imply that apart from God’s acting on the sinner, the sinner cannot respond.

    But how can we do this without God’s help? The bad news is that we cannot. Indeed, “the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God” (Rom.8:7-8).

    Two other verses that contain the words of Jesus also seem to imply the same idea. John 6:44:“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,….” and John 6:65: “He went on to say, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.'”

    Can you elaborate?

    I just recently discovered your website and am extremely happy. I have a number of your published works. In fact I am currently reading in your Romans work regarding the sovereignty of God in Romans 9-12. I find your writings extremely scholarly yet understandable. Thank You!

    • Thank you for your sincere comments and questions. Romans 8:7-8 says that the unsaved sinner cannot properly respond to God’s LAW. This is not the same as responding to the GOSPEL. The gospel is God’s power unto salvation; faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. The gospel of the cross exercises a drawing power upon the sinner’s heart, and SOME sinners use their free will to respond to it. This is the point of John six; God must draw the sinner, but the drawing can be resisted. This is seen from John 12:32, which says that ALL MEN are drawn through the word. All do not respond, however. Here are the facts: sinners must be drawn by God (John 6:44, 65); all who hear the gospel ARE drawn by it (John 12:32); but only some respond to it. These facts are not consistent with Calvinism.